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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Expanded references since initial nomination and general consensus here seems to be keep. (non-admin closure) Dane2007 (talk) 21:41, 7 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mr Eazi

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Nigerian/Ghanaian musician. Google search for his name mostly returns social media, or copies of the announcement by WizKid that he has signed up with his label Starboy Worldwide (which is the only third-party reference the article cites). - Mike Rosoft (talk) 06:17, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 16:28, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I'm not familiar with sites from Nigeria and Ghana, but Pulse Nigeria seems to be a reliable news source, and it has nearly 1.5 million fans on Facebook [1]. They published a short article precisely about the video interview that is mentioned on the talk page (which is embedded in the article): [2]. It's a high-quality interview in terms of production, and it also contains snippets of two of his music videos, which look very professional, in my opinion. I would say the interview video is very significant coverage in a source that looks reliable to me, especially since the Pulse Nigeria article is about the video. But that alone is not enough coverage. 360Nobs.com appears to be another big entertainment news source in Nigeria, and this article [3] is interesting. Apparently Jeed Rogers is big in Nigeria, even though he doesn't have an article on Wikipedia. The article talks about a song in which Mr Eazi is a featured guest (you can watch the video - high quality), and it reads, "Mr Eazi has worked with some of the biggest names in the Ghana music industry, and has been receiving resultant buzz since he got signed to the Star-boy Worldwide. These two are just sensational together on this masterpiece." Another article from 360Nobs.com portrays Mr Eazi as a prominent artist [4]. The video embedded in that article has received nearly half a million views in less than a month, on Mr Eazi's channel. That's impressive. GhanaWeb also seems reliable (all of these sources have been used a lot for Wikipedia articles), and the subject is briefly mentioned here [5]. He hasn't released an EP yet but he seems to be notable anyway already. More from GhanaWeb [6]. At least it has a bit more coverage than some other sources, but not great. Lots of useful information this time, again in Pulse Nigeria [7]. To me that's a key source for the Wikipedia article. Among other things, notice that it says "Pipi Dance" went on to be played on radio massively in Ghana. So perhaps he meets criterion 11 of WP:MUSICBIO. And "If you are conversant with the music scene in Ghana, then the name Mr. Eazi shouldn't be new." So this guy seems to be a new sensation in Ghana! Anyway, keep the nomination open. If these sources (and others that other editors might find) are deemed reliable and the article is kept, they can be used to strengthen the article. Dontreader (talk) 10:07, 5 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:22, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Mr Eazi was featured on BBC Radio, although the show is no longer available [8]. In fact, he was on BBC Radio more than once [9]. This should be in the article to show more notability. Dontreader (talk) 22:12, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • These two links suggest no more than that the subject got some radio play. GNG requires coverage which discusses the subject; that is not happening on these two pages. Whether this is the kind of spin suggested in NBAND, #11, cannot possibly be determined from these links. Saying "they're notable cause they got played on Radio 1" is not in line with policy. Drmies (talk) 01:57, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
      • Now you want to minimize the fact that he was featured on BBC Radio. What you wrote makes absolutely no sense. The second link says this: "Interview with Mr Eazi", and the duration of the episode was 3 hours. You really should cross out that first sentence, at least. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dontreader (talk • contribs) 11:52, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment This other article from GhanaWeb has very significant coverage. As I said earlier, this source seems reliable enough, and is used for other articles about African musicians [10]. The fact that he sang this song with Efya and made a video with her is notable. Dontreader (talk) 23:25, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • It's notable if it got discussed in reliable sources. Ghanaweb, while very useful for its readership, is not much of a reliable source; I've been reading and seeing it here for years. Their site (still) says nothing about editorial oversight, and the generally promotional and jubilant tone of its articles indicates a lack of editorial distance and objectivity. Drmies (talk) 01:57, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
      • You fail to take into consideration the many differences between a country like Ghana and a country like the United States. Editorial oversight is not nearly as good in Ghana. It can't be. The standards for obtaining journalism degrees are very different. The number of websites from Ghana is minimal compared to the US. And you are assuming that Ghana has an Anglo-Saxon culture. They are more jubilant over there. So what? You should respect their culture. Otherwise it would be impossible to have a fair amount of articles about subjects from (or based in) Ghana. There would be mass destruction if you banned GhanaWeb news sources from Wikipedia. And common sense dictates that GhanaWeb should have a Wikipedia article. After all, it's currently the #5 site in Ghana according to Alexa, ahead of Yahoo and Twitter [11]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dontreader (talk • contribs) 11:52, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
        • Saying that a site in Ghana can't have editorial oversight cause it's not in the US (and Ghana has "lower standards"?) is more than a little patronizing: you're suggesting the media in Ghana are like little children, not ready for primetime yet, and need to be helped. That's not respect: that's total racial and cultural insensitivity. Drmies (talk) 12:50, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Okayafrica seems prestigious and has been used in articles about African people on Wikipedia. This announcement might be useful as an inline citation [12]. Notice that it says, "After his performance at the VGMA’s, the Nigerian singer revealed that he’s signed top Ghanaian stars R2bees, Efya and Mr Eazi to his Starboy Worldwide label." If Mr Eazi is a top star in Ghana then I guess he's notable enough. LOL It seems to me that it's just a matter of improving the article substantially with the information on this page. Dontreader (talk) 23:53, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Being signed by Wizkid is a huge thing for his career; it does not yet make him notable via NBAND, which suggests two albums or more on a notable label. In fact, as much as I want to see it, I don't see anything yet in NBAND that he meets; there is no wealth or coverage, there are no certified big hits, there isn't even an album, let alone two, on a major or otherwise important label, etc. The GNG requires in-depth coverage in reliable sources. Ghanaweb is not a reliable sourse, and that OkayAfrica article, while it may well be acceptable, provides no coverage. It clearly suggests he's an artist who may well be on his way to stardom, and when he's a bit further on that way we can write up his article again. Delete. Drmies (talk) 01:57, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • Tell me something, Drmies. What's the official music chart in Ghana? Oh, it doesn't exist? So how do you expect the subject to have certified big hits? Look, please use some common sense. This guy sparked a major controversy because he was excluded from the Ghana Music Awards since he was born in Nigeria. Those are like the Grammy Awards in Ghana. There are many sources that covered that story, such as this one in News Ghana [13]. Do your own research. All you do is complain. Be sensitive to other cultures. Find more sources. When sources were pouring in during that other AfD you just pouted. Be useful. If you honestly can't find anything then you shouldn't be in AfDs, and much less so if you refuse to change your vote when others make an effort to find good sources that prove notability. Seek and you shall find. Thus says the Lord. Dontreader (talk) 11:51, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
      • I didn't say he needed hits in Ghana. After all, the article itself said he was a complete international. But go on, make shitty comments to other people, and get all Xian on them--that's the way to win over your opponents. Remember last time when you apologized for "behaving in such an uncivil manner in that AfD discussion"? Drmies (talk) 12:50, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment In my opinion it's notable that this month Mr Eazi will perform in England. I found this brief "events" article in the Leicester Mercury [14]. My final thoughts are that this singer is very much in the news currently, he seems to be a star in Ghana already (singing and making videos alongside famous artists), he's on the rise, and therefore the article should be given time for improvements and upcoming coverage, not deletion. Dontreader (talk) 08:21, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Maybe If you did some more research about mr eazi and added some good sources maybe this wiki article wouldnt have been nominated for deletion before you create a wikipedia page make sure you have good sources and not two references and then yet your wondering why its getting deleted or been nominated for deletion wikipedia doesnt really care who he has worked with it has to be noteable i added an infoxbox and made some few changes if i had more infos about this mr eazi artist i would have probably changed everything and made it more better but i hardly see any info about him just articles — Preceding unsigned comment added by Debbyloves234 (talk • contribs) 20:02, 13 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks, Debbyloves234, for your help. I did not create this article but I hope to improve it substantially in several hours before the AfD is relisted or closed. Some people come to Wikipedia and the first thing they do is create an article, which is a big mistake. I was on Wikipedia for several years before I created my first article. Anyway, I ask the pertinent Administrator to please consider not deleting this article because I promise to make major improvements, if not tomorrow then within a week. At that point Mr Eazi will be an internationally performing singer because he has a concert scheduled for July 22 in London, and I think a bit later in Birmingham. If it's not a problem, please relist the AfD. I can make a decent article even without the website that Drmies believes (probably rightly so) is not reliable enough. No point in using sources from a website that an admin objects to, and as I said, events are quickly unfolding for this artist, which should cause more good sources to show up. Thanks. Dontreader (talk) 11:04, 16 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. —Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 10:14, 16 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ghana-related deletion discussions. —Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 10:14, 16 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I rewrote the lead section. I think it shows that the subject is notable. I even found a CNN source that quoted him briefly, and I included it. We also have the BBC Radio shows, including an interview, and other sources. It will take me some time to rewrite the rest of the article, but in the meantime, since coverage is not ideal, I want to remind everyone about WP:NOTE, which states that "This page documents an English Wikipedia notability guideline. It is a generally accepted standard that editors should attempt to follow, though it is best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions may apply." I think this is an exception because Ghana and Nigeria do not seem to have websites comparable to American or Western European websites, and there is no official Ghana music chart, or else there's proof that he would have charted since many people were upset that he was excluded from the Ghana Music Awards. If you look at the sources I used in the lead section, some of them are from this month and last month, and he will perform in the UK in a few days, so please give him more time. Dontreader (talk) 04:59, 17 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Although I detected several dead links (I'm sure there are many more on other Ghanaian websites, which is not the subject's fault), I found more coverage. Please examine the list of references in the article. I think it all amounts to significant coverage (passes GNG). A decent article can be written, but I've spent too much time on this project today and tonight. I welcome others to help, or else I will improve it gradually. Dontreader (talk) 08:30, 17 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sam Sailor Talk! 12:02, 17 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Music1201 talk 15:58, 31 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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